RJ on The Rise Host Molly Rowan Leach interviews Stephanie Lepp of Reckonings, a powerful podcast exploring how we change our hearts and minds. Molly and Stephanie's conversation introduces Reckonings episode #21, which illuminates the story of two college students, sexual harm and misconduct, and their restorative justice process.  Thank you to Stephanie, and to David Karp from Skidmore College's PRISM Program, for partnering with us to offer this powerful podcast to you. Part 1 is the mini-interview, and Part 2 is the original episode.

‘I wanted him to be standing with me, and telling our story with me, in a way that didn't just write us into the categories of angelic survivor and evil assaulter. And I think I even told the audience -- if this person comes forward to tell his story, I hope that you’ll listen to him.’

That’s Anwen, speaking about Sameer.

What does it sound like for a survivor to get her needs met? What does it sound like for a perpetrator to take responsibility for his sexual abuse of power?

From Reckonings: Heartfelt thanks to the Friend Foundation, Varda Rabin, and David Karp at the Campus PRISM Project, which helps universities explore the possibility of applying restorative justice to sexual assault.

Transcript: Right here